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 Need to know if it is possible to get wireless internet....

Hi,  I live in a very rural community in Virginia and when it comes to high speed internet, I have no options except for satellite.  Recently, a wireless provider put up 6 towers across the county which provides all areas with a wireless broadband connection.  Well,,,except for me and a few other people.  I live in a somewhat wooded area, the nearest tower is 3 miles away, when they came to see if it was compatible they couldn't even get a signal, which I thought was BS.  But anyway, I asked if they could possible install the receiver on top of the hill infront of my house [on top of this hill you can see the mountain the tower sits on] they said they could...but have never been back and that was about a year ago, they never respond to my calls, emails ...etc.  So, I have decided to take matters into my own hands.  Would it be possible, that if I bought the hardware needed for receiving the wireless connection, could it work?  I know for a fact that the part of the county I live in uses 900mhz signals.  All I know about the hardware is that the receiver is about a the size of a square foot...I have no idea about the modem.  What I would try to do is install the equipment myself and then try to position it to get a signal...it uses ethernet cable...is their any length limitations on the ethernet cable...like if it gets too long will the signal be lost?  I hope to get some responses to this....I am desperate to get high speed and these A holes are doing nothing to help me...I hope you will.  Thanks,  leftwithnooptions.

Started By leftwithnooptions on Nov 9, 2006 at 6:01:17 PM

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taramanju2000 on Nov 23, 2006 at 4:36:57 AM (# 14)

sir , i am a hardware and network engineer. but ihave a problem with wireless internet and network.so i want to know how to set wireless internet . ihave a dlink router524 and i have bsnl broad connection. so ple, tell me how to set
this by digramme. and how to set router.


pivert on Nov 24, 2006 at 2:16:14 AM (# 15)

Interesting discussion, perhaps these guys have suitable equipment and can help you with us-related regulations. I found a wi-fi extender that goes up to 7km but that might be overkill, perhaps you can setup business as a small isp :-) hth.

http://www.cellamericas.com/Wi-Fi-Systems-2.4-GHz-c-254.html?gclid=CNWE26S234gCFTVYQgod7WUypA


MHenke on Nov 27, 2006 at 5:26:22 AM (# 16)

Maybe a bit belated,  but I want to add that Ethernet cable length limitations have primarily to do with signal propagation time, frame size and collision detection, not with signal strength.
You can't glue together an Ethernet segment (collision domain) of arbitrary length with some repeaters. It will fail, even with excellent signal strength.


suznorris on Nov 29, 2006 at 3:34:33 PM (# 17)

Hi!  This is my first time here, but I definitely need any advice or input I can get from people who know about this stuff!!!  I moved to a rural, heavily wooded area last Spring.  Love the place, but the only negative when I moved here was the fact that high speed internet was not going to be an option.....and believe me....I called EVERYONE!  I was sure cable would be a possibility, as my boyfriend lives a mile and a half down the road and has it, but there aren't many homes out here, so they don't have any plans in the near future to come my way!  After I called the cable company relentlessly, phone companies, dish network.....the only option that I found was Hughes Broadband, which was pretty expensive, so I decided that I could live with dial up until something better comes along.......worth it to be in my "dream home"!  Well, to make a long story a little longer (thanks for bearing with me!!!), I currently drive an hour to the city to get to work everyday....sucks, but again.......worth it to be here!  However, I have been offered a job with a company in the city that will allow me to work from home......yay!!!  I figured I would simply get the Hughes satellite installed and things would be golden.  I had the installation scheduled, but then postponed it because I came across a local company - Hoosier Broadband - that offered wireless internet in my area and claimed to be better and faster than the satellite option.....called and set up an installation.  They are not having luck getting a signal from my roof (with a very steep pitch!) to the closest tower, of about 3 miles away, due to the woods......so the other tower they think we should be good with is about 7-8 miles away.  There is a bit of a break in the trees and looks like we are going to have to put in at least a 40-50 ft. pole to attach their gear to.  They seem to think that if we can get the pole high enough to clear the trees, we should be good.  I am waiting for a call back from the owner of the company....so far, the only people who have been here are the installers.......and, nothing against them....fairly young couple, and he is afraid to get up on the roof......they should have sent someone else out with him....it was their second trip and they knew what the roof was like.  I am getting a little apprehensive........I want to believe this can work and really need it to work for my job.......any input from anyone???  I am getting nervous, as I really need something going before the first of the year and I feel like I am going to run out time!  Are there any other options?  I was going to give the Cingular Network card a whirl and see if that does me any good....I get a decent cell signal, but not always great.  Is that enough information for you knowledgeable people to run with!!??  I really do appreciate any help that is out there.......I feel like an idiot trying to research this......no one I talk to knows all that much about it!!  Thanks in advance......and thanks for hanging on through my long saga!!!


BikeRepairman on Nov 30, 2006 at 6:07:14 AM (# 18)

40-50Ft is rather a height to put only one antenna in.
6miles is what we did with a LOS connection (Line Of Sight).
Once the antenna is above the trees, every visible tower should/can be connected to.

Wireless signals have troubles getting through things. every object the signal has to travel through causes loss. Since there are nog much other houses around, 'bouncing' is not an option. We also tried that with mixed succes.

It also depnds on what type antenna you use, amplification of the antenna and output power of the accessopint.

I would go for an 23dB, 3Ft di-pole antenna with an opening angle of 15 degrees and an accesspoint with the max allowed power output.
If 200mW is the maximum output allowed, the 23dB antenna will amplify the signal further to ~1.533W, which gives approx. 100mW/degree.
(A 'pin' antenna has to divide the output signal over 360 degrees. A regular outside pin(19dB), would give 3.5mW/degree.)


suznorris on Nov 30, 2006 at 6:43:09 AM (# 19)

Hey......thanks for the response!!!  I really appreciate your advice........you definitely sound like you know your stuff!!  I am a little technology-challenged, so much of the information is like a foreign language to me!  However, I will print out and check with the wireless company and see what happens!  Thanks again!!!


BikeRepairman on Nov 30, 2006 at 11:13:53 PM (# 20)

I did some checking and would like to add a little.

1st. ...every visible tower... should read: ...every visible tower you can see when climbing up your antenna...

2nd. it was done with linksys WAP11 (802.11b) accesspoints.
That person got effective 120Kbyte/s up-/download over 8.5km/5.6mi with an accesspoint speed of 2Mbs.

3rd. to get a constant signal, put the speed in the accesspoint to a fixed setting. Better to keep it low than high.
If the data packets are faulty the accesspoint tends to switch to a lower speed, needs to handshake again, and asks for a retransfer of the lost/faulty packet. If some data packets come in good, it switches back to a higher speed (again with handshaking and a retransfer of the last packet.


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